Arizona is 17th in the nation for the number of jobs created or retained under President Obama's $787 billion stimulus package, the first report on how the money was spent says.
1. Comment by dave w. (poppieD)— November 28,2009 @ 11:25PM
Ratings:-6+47
I can't understand why the Administration keeps putting out the fictious numbers and says the economy is getting better when they will get caught and have to correct them next week with the explanation " Sorry we thought the people were too dumb to catch us."
2. Comment by CHRIS J. (HORQUILLA)— November 29,2009 @ 1:00AM
Ratings:-3+37
Neither the Democratic party nor the Republican party are the cause of the economic crisis that now confronts our nation. Both parties are equally responsible for the crisis in which we now find ourselves. This problem has been festering for three to four decades and only now has become so serious that policies once used to temporarily resolve it are no longer effective in dealing with it. These policies have only been designed to treat the symptoms of our problems, but do not effectively deal with the underlying causes of our nation's serious economic crisis.
A prime example of the stagnant mindset is the our federal government's recent economic stimulus program, which only offers Americans false hope. How does trillions of dollars of unsustainable government spending over an indefinite period into the future solve our nation’s economic crisis? It only increases our national debt at a time when it was our reliance on credit and debt that precipitated the problem in the first place. It’s like throwing gasoline on a fire in an effort to extinguish the flames. Does it really make any sense to substantially increase the debt that will have to be paid by future generations? The truth be told, current economic recovery efforts are just a continuation of an ongoing Ponzi scheme, which has been promoted by politicians of both political parties over the last several decades. They have told and continue to assure the citizens of this nation that we can have it all without regard to who is actually going pay for these excesses when the bills finally become due. None of our leaders have the political courage or will to do what is necessary to balance federal budget.
The real cause of America's economic crisis is our inability with live within our means. These problems are of our own making. Real solutions to the current economic crisis will require substantial changes in how America conducts it’s business at home and abroad. There are no quick, painless solutions to these problems. Any sustainable solution to our economic problems must substantially reduce our nation’s huge trade deficit. That would result in the injection of hundreds of billions of dollars into the U.S. economy, which would otherwise be diverted overseas. In order to accomplish this task, we need to restore the wealth producing sectors of our economy, which will allow our nation to once again create the wealth it requires for sustainable economic growth. Until our representatives in Washington make a concerted effort to restore the wealth producing sectors of our national economy, the problems that currently plague our nation’s economy will only worsen.
3. Comment by Jeffrey H. (flibber)— November 29,2009 @ 3:38AM
Ratings:-2+35
Congrats to the Star for a look into government inefficiency, waste and possible fraud. There need never be a slow news day as these stories are near infinite. So what's the scoop on Dark Horse Media?
Not counting the AP reports, the Star seems to be getting more objective. The syndicated columnists on the editorial page are just about 50/50. If the purpose of a newspaper is to report when the Emperor's new clothes are transparent, it has achieved this purpose and acted as the fourth estate instead of an echo chamber for its favorite establishment.
4. Comment by David H. (DABears)— November 29,2009 @ 4:36AM
Ratings:-7+39
Some $50,000 went to support 34 dancers in a production of "Swan Lake," which was performed in early November by Ballet Arizona. A private company received $250,000 to install eight prefabricated concrete restroom buildings in the Coronado National Forest. University researchers received $450,000 to study turtle ants to shed light on the evolution of division of labor.
Is this really the crap we need to be spending money on, while people are struggling to feed their families and make their rent payments?
What a total joke, an absolute disgrace. Who the hell care about turtle ants enough to spend a half a million dollars while we are going broke as a nation.
Is this what Gabby Giffords voted for, and then calls herself a blue dog democrat. Give me a break.
7. Comment by Moris D. (Moris D)— November 29,2009 @ 5:50AM
Ratings:-54+5
The vast right wing conspiracy is out in full this morning trying to attack President Obama who happens to be the greatest President this nation has ever had.
McCan't would have said "stimulus? We had a stimulus?"
Yeah hes pretty great. Obama is the best ever isnt he.
Just curious.....how is THEMESSIAH greater than George Washington?
Just curious!
9. Comment by Evel K. (EvilMike)— November 29,2009 @ 6:09AM
Ratings:-3+32
When this first passed, I remember posting how the 'Stimulus' sure looked a lot like a quid pro quo for the teachers' and public employees' unions who helped the Democrats so much in the 2008 elections. That the 800 billion would wind up being little more than a stop gap funding bill for states with huge deficit budgets. I also remember being pilloried by its supporters for not believing the claims that the money would be targeted primarily toward infrastructure and 'shovel ready', long term jobs that would kick start the private sector.
It's certainly was one occasion where I would have been happy to have been wrong
10. Comment by Ignacio J. (scrofula)— November 29,2009 @ 7:04AM
Ratings:-3+32
Mud isn't then only thing that is brown and non-transparent...and Obama and Congress are shoveling tons of that brown stuff on us and down our throats day after day after day.
11. Comment by Bill D. (Donavan)— November 29,2009 @ 7:08AM
Ratings:-2+9
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12. Comment by Michael P. (powersmf)— November 29,2009 @ 7:14AM
Ratings:-8+28
7. Comment by Moris D. (Moris D) —
The vast right wing conspiracy is out in full this morning trying to attack President Obama who happens to be the greatest President this nation has ever had.
McCan't would have said "stimulus? We had a stimulus?"
-- Wake up kool aid drinker, he has only been in office like 10 months. Wait until he finishes at least a couple of years. You are part of the reason this country is where it is, blind allegience to a party
13. Comment by Wayne B. (rain)— November 29,2009 @ 7:33AM
Ratings:-5+20
3. Comment by Jeffrey H. (flibber)
I agree, kudos to the Star but is it too little, too late? Time will tell.
The Republican and Democrat Parties are not exactly the same. There have been some spend-crazy Republicans but not all by a long shot. Former President Bush was wrong to spend so much and have a socialist bailout bill, but President Obama goes much, much further when it comes to overspending and handing out money indiscriminately.
The Tea Parties are reforming the GOP, but is there any hope for the DNC? I doubt it.
The fiscally responsible half of the Republican Party can pull the US back from the brink of disaster, if we can weed out the RINOs and have independents on our side to help us. The 2010 election is the key.
Most people who comment here know how they vote and why, and the country is split and polorized. It's the mushy, middle of the road, usually uninformed voters who make the decisions every election with their swing votes. If newspaper and TV news starts telling them what's really going on, there will be a big change this next election.
14. Comment by Dean F. (Ozarks)— November 29,2009 @ 7:35AM
Ratings:-1+26
Obama knew that the stimulus bill had to pass quickly, because if taxpayers and some members of Congress had a chance to read it, the bill would never pass. Now that we know what was in the bill and how the money was spent, it's too late. However, there is an election coming up soon and we will have an opportunity to tell those who voted for it exactly how we feel.
15. Comment by Dennis S. (1535)— November 29,2009 @ 7:42AM
Ratings:-2+21
An enlightening report, thank you ADS.
The stimulus package is not yet a year old and serves as some sort of an example of how well the federal government can manage something with this complexity and cost.
It leads one to ponder how well the 110 new bureaucracies called for by health care reform will implement those 2000 pages.
The big difference from the stim package is that from our perspective, the bureaucracies are not just handling money but the health and well-being of those we love.
19. Comment by Fred B. (whuh)— November 29,2009 @ 8:32AM
Ratings:-1+15
"Cheryl Arvidson, the assistant Director of Communications for the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board"
There's one job that can be certified as created by the Omnibus Revive the Economy Act (short title 1: Porkulus Maximus Bill; short title 2: Stimulus Plan)
Another would be the Director of Communications, blah blah, Board.
Oh and the Second Assistant.
And the Executive Assistant.
And the Associate Director of Accountability.
And the Associate Director of Transparency.
And their Assistants.
23. Comment by Wayne B. (rain)— November 29,2009 @ 9:11AM
Ratings:-2+15
22. Comment by Jack M. (jmcdtucson)
Seems like most of the negative comments are just people who hate Obama and would seize any excuse to badmouth him.
So, based on your logic, negative comments about people who disagree with President Obama's policies are also probably by people who hate Obama-diagreers and are just seizing opportunity.
30. Comment by Peter K. (Sweet Pete)— November 29,2009 @ 9:42AM
Ratings:-13+1
"Arizona is 17th in the nation for the number of jobs created or retained under President Obama's $787 billion stimulus package, the first report on how the money was spent"
I'd really like to know how the $700 Billion of the "urgent" first stimulous package, under Bush in the Fall of 2008 was used.
Oh wait, Hank Paulsen told the American taxpayer that "it was none of our business" how it was being used. Sorry, forgot.
While we're at it, I'd still like to know what happened to that $12 Billion dollars that simply "disappeared" into thin air in Iraq!
31. Comment by Paul M. (pauldeemc)— November 29,2009 @ 9:47AM
Ratings:-2+12
The paper copy this morning also included comments by the Great Gabby, Raul and John Kyle. Of course, Gabby and Raul fell all over themselves talking about how great the stimulus package has worked - of course, they voted for it and no Democrat will ever, ever admit that they are wrong.
btw, say what you want about G.W. Bush because lots of it may be true - butr Obama will go down in history as the worst president we've ever elected.
34. Comment by Fred B. (whuh)— November 29,2009 @ 9:59AM
Ratings:-2+11
#30 - "I'd really like to know how the $700 Billion of the "urgent" first stimulous package, under Bush in the Fall of 2008 was used"
Stimulus...or bank bailout ?
Did GWB say it would save or create a specific number of jobs in a specific timeframe ?
Didn't GWB save half of the $700B for The Current Occupant ?
36. Comment by Ed H. (Mr Ed)— November 29,2009 @ 10:21AM
Ratings:-2+8
At the bottom of all of this is the beginning of the end of political correctness. "It's not nice to deny someone a home loan just because they can't afford it. They're probably victims of our unfair system!". Or "Even though this guy isn't really qualified we'll give him the job anyway because we need to boost his self esteem" and on and on. Reality exists whether we like it or not. What is happening now is a long overdue jolt back to the real world.
37. Comment by Mark Y. (Major Mark)— November 29,2009 @ 10:46AM
Ratings:-1+16
This entire program is akin to a Ponzi scheme. Americans have been hoodwinked. The bottom line is most Americans do not understand basic math and how to handle money. Then you get politicians putting their spin on the Stimulus bill and you get a confused electorate. Once everyone gets over the "George Bush" hangover and realizes that his replacement is an amateur we can get about getting officials running our country who are decision makers.
40. Comment by francis w. (6565)— November 29,2009 @ 11:23AM
Ratings:-1+16
The stimulus fund is proving to be no more than a slush fund to provide "walkin' around" money to democrat shills and those whose votes they wish to purchase in the next election.
41. Comment by Rob S. (azrob)— November 29,2009 @ 12:13PM
Ratings:-1+15
Tim and Rhonda--GREAT REPORTING! I am totally surprised that you were allowed to print this knowing what the ADS editorial folks usually hold back. Yes, many in Washington have tried to tell us about all the wastefull "earmarks" that the "stimulus" was funding but the media normally won't criticize anything that the Adminstration is responsible for--or doesn't work--or wastes. It goes on "deaf ears".
T. and R., how bout doing another investigative story?
Let's hear more about the 1000- plus emails that were hacked explaining how "global warming" (climate change) is a total farce... These were environmental scientists that held back crucial information from the WORLD. This is being reported on cable but nowhere else. If you investigate and report about this one, I will truly be a convert...
42. Comment by Joseph M. (ClrCrk)— November 29,2009 @ 5:44PM
Ratings:-0+5
Job creation is a small baby step in the right direction if it budges our empire of consumption and debt away from the borrow and spend our way to prosperity kick.
What we need is a giant stride that will restore our production to some equivalence with our consumption. I have the uneasy feeling that some, perhaps most, of the jobs created won't help us to achieve that balance.
To paraphrase author Peter D. Schiff: borrowing to pay for consumption is the way rich nations become poor.
43. Comment by Maria S. (abril)— November 29,2009 @ 6:41PM
Ratings:-0+5
1. The one TRILLION dollars put into this "stimulus" package is money we don't have. It has to be paid back someday.
2. The only way it can be paid back is by taxing people’s income in the future.
3. If this money is simply squandered on more government programs that pay no taxes and produce nothing, it can't be paid back. Government, which sucks up wealth, will grow. Business, which produces wealth, will shrink.
This experiment has been tried over and over around the world with disastrous results. Do we really want to go in that direction?
45. Comment by joe r. (Mojo)— November 30,2009 @ 6:21AM
Ratings:-0+5
Giffords is trying to paint a rosey picture ,to get re- elected. Drive your limo up and down Tucson 's streets! Every block has an empty store front or more!. All they did is pay criminals for committing crimes with no punishment at our expense! You've done nothing!!
48. Comment by Priscilla C. (humako)— November 30,2009 @ 11:51AM
Ratings:-1+0
$$$ for Senior Citizen's arts class? Is that really a necessity or luxury? They'll be laid to rest sooner or later so why invest in stimulating their creativity with an art class? I'd rather see that $$$ go to children in a local elementary school, give them something to do so they won't be out tagging up buildings and buying drugs from the dealers.
49. Comment by bob V. (Bob Voso)— November 30,2009 @ 1:02PM
Ratings:-1+1
Pricilla,
Why invest medical resources in old people? They are just going to die soon anyway.
Why invest in socialized medicine? all those people which don't meet my high standards will get medical care... I don't want that, I want them all to die so only people like me will be left. Then we can build a wall to keep the rest out and we can all be happy in our comfortable, gated communities.
50. Comment by Mike W. (MikeW67)— November 30,2009 @ 1:05PM
Ratings:-1+0
GDP grew in the 3rd quarter, jobs are always lagging the numbers recovery in each recession. Those thinking about long-term recovery, know the enviroment will be a big winner in the conversion to biofuels & biopower -- saw a cool site; Balkingpoints ; incredible satellite view of earth
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Stimulus spending data from US 'clear as mud'
Arizona is 17th in the nation for the number of jobs created or retained under President Obama's $787 billion stimulus package, the first report on how the money was spent says.I can't understand why the Administration keeps putting out the fictious numbers and says the economy is getting better when they will get caught and have to correct them next week with the explanation " Sorry we thought the people were too dumb to catch us."
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Neither the Democratic party nor the Republican party are the cause of the economic crisis that now confronts our nation. Both parties are equally responsible for the crisis in which we now find ourselves. This problem has been festering for three to four decades and only now has become so serious that policies once used to temporarily resolve it are no longer effective in dealing with it. These policies have only been designed to treat the symptoms of our problems, but do not effectively deal with the underlying causes of our nation's serious economic crisis.
A prime example of the stagnant mindset is the our federal government's recent economic stimulus program, which only offers Americans false hope. How does trillions of dollars of unsustainable government spending over an indefinite period into the future solve our nation’s economic crisis? It only increases our national debt at a time when it was our reliance on credit and debt that precipitated the problem in the first place. It’s like throwing gasoline on a fire in an effort to extinguish the flames. Does it really make any sense to substantially increase the debt that will have to be paid by future generations? The truth be told, current economic recovery efforts are just a continuation of an ongoing Ponzi scheme, which has been promoted by politicians of both political parties over the last several decades. They have told and continue to assure the citizens of this nation that we can have it all without regard to who is actually going pay for these excesses when the bills finally become due. None of our leaders have the political courage or will to do what is necessary to balance federal budget.
The real cause of America's economic crisis is our inability with live within our means. These problems are of our own making. Real solutions to the current economic crisis will require substantial changes in how America conducts it’s business at home and abroad. There are no quick, painless solutions to these problems. Any sustainable solution to our economic problems must substantially reduce our nation’s huge trade deficit. That would result in the injection of hundreds of billions of dollars into the U.S. economy, which would otherwise be diverted overseas. In order to accomplish this task, we need to restore the wealth producing sectors of our economy, which will allow our nation to once again create the wealth it requires for sustainable economic growth. Until our representatives in Washington make a concerted effort to restore the wealth producing sectors of our national economy, the problems that currently plague our nation’s economy will only worsen.
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Congrats to the Star for a look into government inefficiency, waste and possible fraud. There need never be a slow news day as these stories are near infinite. So what's the scoop on Dark Horse Media?
Not counting the AP reports, the Star seems to be getting more objective. The syndicated columnists on the editorial page are just about 50/50. If the purpose of a newspaper is to report when the Emperor's new clothes are transparent, it has achieved this purpose and acted as the fourth estate instead of an echo chamber for its favorite establishment.
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Some $50,000 went to support 34 dancers in a production of "Swan Lake," which was performed in early November by Ballet Arizona. A private company received $250,000 to install eight prefabricated concrete restroom buildings in the Coronado National Forest. University researchers received $450,000 to study turtle ants to shed light on the evolution of division of labor.
Is this really the crap we need to be spending money on, while people are struggling to feed their families and make their rent payments?
What a total joke, an absolute disgrace. Who the hell care about turtle ants enough to spend a half a million dollars while we are going broke as a nation.
Is this what Gabby Giffords voted for, and then calls herself a blue dog democrat. Give me a break.
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Some people will get very rich off the "stimulus", it pays to be connected.
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The vast right wing conspiracy is out in full this morning trying to attack President Obama who happens to be the greatest President this nation has ever had.
McCan't would have said "stimulus? We had a stimulus?"
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#7 SIR Obama Madness (Moris spelled backwards) said....."President Obama who happens to be the greatest President this nation has ever had...."
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Yeah hes pretty great. Obama is the best ever isnt he.
Just curious.....how is THEMESSIAH greater than George Washington?
Just curious!
When this first passed, I remember posting how the 'Stimulus' sure looked a lot like a quid pro quo for the teachers' and public employees' unions who helped the Democrats so much in the 2008 elections. That the 800 billion would wind up being little more than a stop gap funding bill for states with huge deficit budgets. I also remember being pilloried by its supporters for not believing the claims that the money would be targeted primarily toward infrastructure and 'shovel ready', long term jobs that would kick start the private sector.
It's certainly was one occasion where I would have been happy to have been wrong
. . . . . . but I wasn't.
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Mud isn't then only thing that is brown and non-transparent...and Obama and Congress are shoveling tons of that brown stuff on us and down our throats day after day after day.
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7. Comment by Moris D. (Moris D) —
The vast right wing conspiracy is out in full this morning trying to attack President Obama who happens to be the greatest President this nation has ever had.
McCan't would have said "stimulus? We had a stimulus?"
-- Wake up kool aid drinker, he has only been in office like 10 months. Wait until he finishes at least a couple of years. You are part of the reason this country is where it is, blind allegience to a party
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3. Comment by Jeffrey H. (flibber)
I agree, kudos to the Star but is it too little, too late? Time will tell.
The Republican and Democrat Parties are not exactly the same. There have been some spend-crazy Republicans but not all by a long shot. Former President Bush was wrong to spend so much and have a socialist bailout bill, but President Obama goes much, much further when it comes to overspending and handing out money indiscriminately.
The Tea Parties are reforming the GOP, but is there any hope for the DNC? I doubt it.
The fiscally responsible half of the Republican Party can pull the US back from the brink of disaster, if we can weed out the RINOs and have independents on our side to help us. The 2010 election is the key.
Most people who comment here know how they vote and why, and the country is split and polorized. It's the mushy, middle of the road, usually uninformed voters who make the decisions every election with their swing votes. If newspaper and TV news starts telling them what's really going on, there will be a big change this next election.
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Obama knew that the stimulus bill had to pass quickly, because if taxpayers and some members of Congress had a chance to read it, the bill would never pass. Now that we know what was in the bill and how the money was spent, it's too late. However, there is an election coming up soon and we will have an opportunity to tell those who voted for it exactly how we feel.
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An enlightening report, thank you ADS.
The stimulus package is not yet a year old and serves as some sort of an example of how well the federal government can manage something with this complexity and cost.
It leads one to ponder how well the 110 new bureaucracies called for by health care reform will implement those 2000 pages.
The big difference from the stim package is that from our perspective, the bureaucracies are not just handling money but the health and well-being of those we love.
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This is the only job that I can see in the report that was definately created by the stimulus package.
Cheryl Arvidson, the assistant Director of Communications for the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board.
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"The locally funded project that appears to have saved the most jobs actually supported work in California"
Heh, heh.
Does that mean both AZ and CA can count the jobs as created or saved ?
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"Cheryl Arvidson, the assistant Director of Communications for the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board"
There's one job that can be certified as created by the Omnibus Revive the Economy Act (short title 1: Porkulus Maximus Bill; short title 2: Stimulus Plan)
Another would be the Director of Communications, blah blah, Board.
Oh and the Second Assistant.
And the Executive Assistant.
And the Associate Director of Accountability.
And the Associate Director of Transparency.
And their Assistants.
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I can't wait for the "Three Stooges" (BO, HR,NP)next folly! I sure hope that I can survive until 2010.
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Had enough yet?
BTW, Moris is pulling everyone's leg.
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They have to try to measure the number of jobs created. Obviously it's impossible to be anywhere near right. How would you do it?
Seems like most of the negative comments are just people who hate Obama and would seize any excuse to badmouth him.
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22. Comment by Jack M. (jmcdtucson)
Seems like most of the negative comments are just people who hate Obama and would seize any excuse to badmouth him.
So, based on your logic, negative comments about people who disagree with President Obama's policies are also probably by people who hate Obama-diagreers and are just seizing opportunity.
Lot of seizing going on there!
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I agree #22
"Seems like most of the negative comments are just people who hate Obama and would seize any excuse to badmouth him."
They are shrub supporters who think (do neocons actually think at all?) McSame could stay awake long enough to do anything but snooze!
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"Seems like most of the negative comments are just people who hate Obama and would seize any excuse to badmouth him"
Seems like most of the positive comments are just people who adore Obama and would seize any excuse to adulate him.
"Hey look, He's saving jobs!!!"
"How would you do it?"
Uhhhh, start by not making an immeasurable claim of being able to "save" a job, to start with ?
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I helped create or retain 245 jobs just this morning!
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I wonder how many jobs would have been created or saved if they had spent more than 21% of the $787B in it's first year.
SOURCE
Hmmm...$63B in tax relief,
$63B in "entitlements
wonder why they're not creating any jobs...
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The efforts to track jobs saved or created by the stimulus is proof of government incompetence.
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In the end, Barack Obama will be the only president who made Jimmy Carter look like a genius.
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"Arizona is 17th in the nation for the number of jobs created or retained under President Obama's $787 billion stimulus package, the first report on how the money was spent"
I'd really like to know how the $700 Billion of the "urgent" first stimulous package, under Bush in the Fall of 2008 was used.
Oh wait, Hank Paulsen told the American taxpayer that "it was none of our business" how it was being used. Sorry, forgot.
While we're at it, I'd still like to know what happened to that $12 Billion dollars that simply "disappeared" into thin air in Iraq!
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The paper copy this morning also included comments by the Great Gabby, Raul and John Kyle. Of course, Gabby and Raul fell all over themselves talking about how great the stimulus package has worked - of course, they voted for it and no Democrat will ever, ever admit that they are wrong.
btw, say what you want about G.W. Bush because lots of it may be true - butr Obama will go down in history as the worst president we've ever elected.
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Moris, you slay me! I get the joke...wish more did.
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MONEY $$$ FOR BUMS. THEY DO9N'T WORK OR PAY TAXES.
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#30 -
"I'd really like to know how the $700 Billion of the "urgent" first stimulous package, under Bush in the Fall of 2008 was used"
Stimulus...or bank bailout ?
Did GWB say it would save or create a specific number of jobs in a specific timeframe ?
Didn't GWB save half of the $700B for The Current Occupant ?
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The dada is as black and white as our mulatto leader. It’s all transparent!
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At the bottom of all of this is the beginning of the end of political correctness. "It's not nice to deny someone a home loan just because they can't afford it. They're probably victims of our unfair system!". Or "Even though this guy isn't really qualified we'll give him the job anyway because we need to boost his self esteem" and on and on. Reality exists whether we like it or not. What is happening now is a long overdue jolt back to the real world.
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This entire program is akin to a Ponzi scheme. Americans have been hoodwinked. The bottom line is most Americans do not understand basic math and how to handle money. Then you get politicians putting their spin on the Stimulus bill and you get a confused electorate. Once everyone gets over the "George Bush" hangover and realizes that his replacement is an amateur we can get about getting officials running our country who are decision makers.
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Swan lake? Turtle ants?
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"President Obama who happens to be the greatest President this nation has ever had."
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
someone got stimulated
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The stimulus fund is proving to be no more than a slush fund to provide "walkin' around" money to democrat shills and those whose votes they wish to purchase in the next election.
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Tim and Rhonda--GREAT REPORTING! I am totally surprised that you were allowed to print this knowing what the ADS editorial folks usually hold back. Yes, many in Washington have tried to tell us about all the wastefull "earmarks" that the "stimulus" was funding but the media normally won't criticize anything that the Adminstration is responsible for--or doesn't work--or wastes. It goes on "deaf ears".
T. and R., how bout doing another investigative story?
Let's hear more about the 1000- plus emails that were hacked explaining how "global warming" (climate change) is a total farce... These were environmental scientists that held back crucial information from the WORLD. This is being reported on cable but nowhere else. If you investigate and report about this one, I will truly be a convert...
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Job creation is a small baby step in the right direction if it budges our empire of consumption and debt away from the borrow and spend our way to prosperity kick.
What we need is a giant stride that will restore our production to some equivalence with our consumption. I have the uneasy feeling that some, perhaps most, of the jobs created won't help us to achieve that balance.
To paraphrase author Peter D. Schiff: borrowing to pay for consumption is the way rich nations become poor.
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1. The one TRILLION dollars put into this "stimulus" package is money we don't have. It has to be paid back someday.
2. The only way it can be paid back is by taxing people’s income in the future.
3. If this money is simply squandered on more government programs that pay no taxes and produce nothing, it can't be paid back. Government, which sucks up wealth, will grow. Business, which produces wealth, will shrink.
This experiment has been tried over and over around the world with disastrous results. Do we really want to go in that direction?
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#7 must be a welfare recipient himself.
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Giffords is trying to paint a rosey picture ,to get re- elected. Drive your limo up and down Tucson 's streets! Every block has an empty store front or more!. All they did is pay criminals for committing crimes with no punishment at our expense! You've done nothing!!
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Remember everybody, Giffords voted against the stimulus before voting for it.
She voted for it after it was sufficiently larded up.
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Data used to support the massive stimulus spending is as reliable as that used to perpetuate the global climate fear.
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$$$ for Senior Citizen's arts class? Is that really a necessity or luxury? They'll be laid to rest sooner or later so why invest in stimulating their creativity with an art class? I'd rather see that $$$ go to children in a local elementary school, give them something to do so they won't be out tagging up buildings and buying drugs from the dealers.
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Pricilla,
Why invest medical resources in old people? They are just going to die soon anyway.
Why invest in socialized medicine? all those people which don't meet my high standards will get medical care... I don't want that, I want them all to die so only people like me will be left. Then we can build a wall to keep the rest out and we can all be happy in our comfortable, gated communities.
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GDP grew in the 3rd quarter, jobs are always lagging the numbers recovery in each recession. Those thinking about long-term recovery, know the enviroment will be a big winner in the conversion to biofuels & biopower -- saw a cool site; Balkingpoints ; incredible satellite view of earth
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I'm talking about the art class for senior citizens that is mentioned in the article.
However, you're talking about healthcare and illegal immigration, so why respond when you're going to change the topic?
Did you read the article? My comment is in reference to the statement in the article.
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The morons in charge have lied, cheated and stolen for a year now. It will get worse if we don't vote these tax cheats and thieves OUT!
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