CAMP LEJEUNE, N.C. — Marines treated at Camp Lejeune for post-traumatic stress had to undergo therapy for months in temporary trailers where they could hear bomb blasts, machine-gun fire and war cries through the thin walls, according to servicemen and their former psychiatrist.
1. Comment by NightHawk P. (NightHawk)— November 21,2009 @ 1:52AM
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If they put me in a trailer like that there would be nothing except former psychiatrist left. If you didn't have PTSD before you started you would have it when you finshed.
2. Comment by DAVPRME 4. (DAVPRME4)— November 21,2009 @ 3:17AM
Ratings:-0+8
Despite what each branch of the military tells the public about their respective PTSD programs for their troops. There is still,underneath all the hoopla,a stigma attached to troops who seek out care for PTSD through military resources. The biggest offender is the US Army. I served with a few guys who sought help through military channels,after they completed the PTSD program,the Army discharged them for "borderline personality disorder" which conveniently allows the Army and the VA to deny them any compensation for PTSD related disabilities. A close friend of mine that I served in the USAF with was actually taunted,belittled,and denied reenlistment by his chain of command. This Airman had 12 years of spotless military service in and no negative paperwork at all in his file. He even followed the proper chain of command to contest the way he was being treated because he sought help for PTSD. Sadly all of the BS got too be to much and he ended his life. These are examples of how the military REALLY treats it's people who seek help for PTSD and Combat Stress issues.
3. Comment by DAVPRME 4. (DAVPRME4)— November 21,2009 @ 3:24AM
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Before anyone questions how I was able to serve in both the Army and the USAF in my previous statement,let me clear up the confusion. I was an Air National Guardsman and I took any deployment missions I could get,so at one time I worked in an Army aid station,another time I served in a USAF EMEDS field hospital.I worked along side a lot of good Doc's,Nurses,and Medics from all branches during my time in the service,Seeing the real way how the military secretly treated a lot of troops with PTSD and even physical injuries,made up my mind for me when it came time for me to reenlist. I turned reenlistment down because I wasn't taking the chance of ending up getting injured and screwed over.
5. Comment by Priscilla W. (PrissVHW)— November 21,2009 @ 7:04AM
Ratings:-9+2
Here again Obama is brought into the discussion. I guess most writers who complain about him must really think he is a miracle man whose hand can be seen in anything that goes on in this country. Such nonsense. I thought we elected a mere mortal to the presidency.
9. Comment by Jose C. (arizonamusic)— November 21,2009 @ 10:20AM
Ratings:-0+0
The problem is that when a soldier is deployed more than one time voluntarily or involuntarily, it will change him. A person cannot go out several times to kill people and feel good about it. It takes the humanity out of you to expect that what you did or are doing to weaker people is great. Killing human beings is not right no matter who does it!
10. Comment by William W. (Gunner)— November 21,2009 @ 12:15PM
Ratings:-0+1
Sorry Jose, but killing is what a soldier is trained to do, at least those in the Army and Marine Corps, possibly a more intense training is in order. As far as the Air Force, except for pilots, this may be another matter and further training is required.
The actual situation occuring, at present, is that those trained to do this, are not permitted or restricted as to what they can do, and there are multiple penalties for doing what they are trained to do, resulting in up to life sentences in Leavenworth.
If we are going to fight a hand to hand war, let the military conduct the war and keep the politicians and news media at home where they belong, not cluttering up the front line trying to make a name for themselves.
Then maybe those fighting the war will not be so sensitive.
11. Comment by William W. (Gunner)— November 21,2009 @ 12:21PM
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#1 Nighthawk.......Having spent many years at Camp Lejeune, despite what that spokesperson says, there are many places on that base where you will never any "booms" and the Naval Hospital is one of them, and that is where they should be treating them.
12. Comment by NightHawk P. (NightHawk)— November 21,2009 @ 1:50PM
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There is only one place that works William, and that is in groups of guys that have been there. Away from the Chain of Command. If you want to stay in the first thing you learn is to keep your mouth shut, and not seek help.
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Care of stressed Marines faulted
CAMP LEJEUNE, N.C. — Marines treated at Camp Lejeune for post-traumatic stress had to undergo therapy for months in temporary trailers where they could hear bomb blasts, machine-gun fire and war cries through the thin walls, according to servicemen and their former psychiatrist.If they put me in a trailer like that there would be nothing except former psychiatrist left. If you didn't have PTSD before you started you would have it when you finshed.
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Despite what each branch of the military tells the public about their respective PTSD programs for their troops. There is still,underneath all the hoopla,a stigma attached to troops who seek out care for PTSD through military resources. The biggest offender is the US Army. I served with a few guys who sought help through military channels,after they completed the PTSD program,the Army discharged them for "borderline personality disorder" which conveniently allows the Army and the VA to deny them any compensation for PTSD related disabilities. A close friend of mine that I served in the USAF with was actually taunted,belittled,and denied reenlistment by his chain of command. This Airman had 12 years of spotless military service in and no negative paperwork at all in his file. He even followed the proper chain of command to contest the way he was being treated because he sought help for PTSD. Sadly all of the BS got too be to much and he ended his life. These are examples of how the military REALLY treats it's people who seek help for PTSD and Combat Stress issues.
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Before anyone questions how I was able to serve in both the Army and the USAF in my previous statement,let me clear up the confusion. I was an Air National Guardsman and I took any deployment missions I could get,so at one time I worked in an Army aid station,another time I served in a USAF EMEDS field hospital.I worked along side a lot of good Doc's,Nurses,and Medics from all branches during my time in the service,Seeing the real way how the military secretly treated a lot of troops with PTSD and even physical injuries,made up my mind for me when it came time for me to reenlist. I turned reenlistment down because I wasn't taking the chance of ending up getting injured and screwed over.
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Yet ObamaCare will cut funds to the VA that our troops need to help Obama pay for ObamaCare which the Senate Bill gives to illegal aliens
Why has Obama stopped the investigation into the Fort Hood terrorist attack by a Muslim terrorist who murdered 13 Americans in cold blood?
Remember Obama does not want us calling Islamic terrorists "terrorists" because it might hurt the islamic terrorist's feelings.
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Here again Obama is brought into the discussion. I guess most writers who complain about him must really think he is a miracle man whose hand can be seen in anything that goes on in this country. Such nonsense. I thought we elected a mere mortal to the presidency.
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Such nonsense. I thought we elected a mere mortal to the presidency.
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Not according to all of you obots..You all thought that you elected a God-instead, once the thin vineer wore off, all you got was a Clod.
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President Obama is as close to being a "God" as any president in history!
Bush is Satan!
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Think the big unanswered question here is not so much WHY to treatment is so bad but WHY there are so many needing it.
If it is a fact and it is, in many cases, the question is what are we doing wrong over there and how we can put a stop to it.
Maybe the answer is to get our troops out of there and use other military items and techniques that we have in our arsenal to end it now.
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The problem is that when a soldier is deployed more than one time voluntarily or involuntarily, it will change him. A person cannot go out several times to kill people and feel good about it. It takes the humanity out of you to expect that what you did or are doing to weaker people is great. Killing human beings is not right no matter who does it!
Report this comment
Sorry Jose, but killing is what a soldier is trained to do, at least those in the Army and Marine Corps, possibly a more intense training is in order. As far as the Air Force, except for pilots, this may be another matter and further training is required.
The actual situation occuring, at present, is that those trained to do this, are not permitted or restricted as to what they can do, and there are multiple penalties for doing what they are trained to do, resulting in up to life sentences in Leavenworth.
If we are going to fight a hand to hand war, let the military conduct the war and keep the politicians and news media at home where they belong, not cluttering up the front line trying to make a name for themselves.
Then maybe those fighting the war will not be so sensitive.
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#1 Nighthawk.......Having spent many years at Camp Lejeune, despite what that spokesperson says, there are many places on that base where you will never any "booms" and the Naval Hospital is one of them, and that is where they should be treating them.
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There is only one place that works William, and that is in groups of guys that have been there. Away from the Chain of Command. If you want to stay in the first thing you learn is to keep your mouth shut, and not seek help.
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