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Political notebook : Shadegg ventriloquizes a baby and has no regrets

Congressman John Shadegg was mocked by funnyman Jon Stewart and chastised by Bill O'Reilly for his floor speech against the health-care reform bill when it came up for a vote last Saturday.
1. Comment by Susan S. (2667) — November 15,2009 @ 5:46AM
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As for Kozachik, I liked his campaign signs that said "Join the Koz", making a pun on "cause".

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2. Comment by Chayah M. (chayah) — November 15,2009 @ 6:35AM
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Rep. Pete Stark of California, a democrat, brought his twin pre-adolescent age children in as props (same as Shadegg with with his chief of staff's baby) to illustrate his views on the health care bill. So everyone who wants to pass judgment on Shadegg for his speech with a child, be careful, your glass houses are showing!

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3. Comment by Chayah M. (chayah) — November 15,2009 @ 6:46AM
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"It's not quite so bad for the hometown rep. More than half of registered voters, about 52 percent, want to see their representative re-elected next year, according to a 2,000-voter sampling by the Pew Research Center."

Except in Congressional District #8 (Tucson to Nogales to Mesa area). Rep. Gabrielle Giffords has thumbed her nose consistently at her constituents with pre-written response letters on major issues from her office and statements to the effect "I'm in Washington and more knowledgeable than you on issues like health care and the border patrol issues. What she really is saying, I'm committed to my political party (the Democrats) and could care less how my votes affect your life in podunk Arizona because I'm big time in Washington and you, little person, are not.

Send Giffords her pink slip in 2010 vote for Jesse Kelly for Congress and let's get a representative in there that cares about his constituents quality lives, future generations ability to afford the spending approved by our Congressional representative, and the safety of our nation.

To learn more about Jesse Kelly and join his campaign as a volunteer and/or host a fundraiser for him to beat Gabrielle Giffords go to

www.voteJesseKelly.com

4. Comment by Phillip D. (pdavid) — November 15,2009 @ 7:36AM
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re 3#:

I just looked up Gifford's voting record, and she appears to be serving her constiuents well.

Voted for:

  • Extending Federal Emergency Unemployment Benefits and Providing Business and Homebuyer Tax Credits
  • Student Aid Program Modifications
  • FDA Oversight of Tobacco Products
  • Lilly Ledbetter Pay Act (equal pay for women)
  • Recognition of the Importance of Christmas and Christianity H Res 847
  • Prohibiting Federal Assistance to ACORN
  • CHIP Reauthorization Act of 2009
  • Allowing Loaded Guns in National Parks

Voted NO on
* Supplemental Appropriations for the Cash for Clunkers Program

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5. Comment by Wayne B. (rain) — November 15,2009 @ 8:02AM
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2. Comment by Chayah M. (chayah)

Exactly, Shadegg's stunt is an excellent demonstration of why Republicans should not try to be Democrats.

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6. Comment by Bree H. (Bree H) — November 15,2009 @ 8:11AM
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#2, it wasn't so much bringing a human prop as what Shadegg said. He was putting words into a baby's mouth. Read the transcript -- what a fool.

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7. Comment by Linda C. (Pacachu4) — November 15,2009 @ 9:03AM
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#3, Is a paid shill for the Kelly campaign and spams each and every thread on azstarnet that she can trying to get her hack elected.

ADS MODS....TOS STATES THAT THIS IS AGAINST YOUR TERMS OF SERVICE...PLEASE BLOCK HER ACCOUNT.

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8. Comment by Art H. (sandbags) — November 15,2009 @ 9:12AM
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so, Phillip, did you "forget" that Giffords voted for the Nancy Pelosi healthcare debacle? Serving her constituents? I think not.

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9. Comment by James N. (Gene) — November 15,2009 @ 9:14AM
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Shadegg brings to mind the Martin Sheen character in the movie, "The Dead Zone," who held a baby in front of himself so an assassin would not shoot him.

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10. Comment by Lindsey S. (Lindsey TS) — November 15,2009 @ 9:21AM
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"You see, Maddie knows that if this bill passes it says that her mom's health care goes away and won't be around in five years."

Maddie knows of what she "speaks". This so-called health care insurance reform bill will bankrupt this country and if the Cap and Trade tax takes effect, this country will never recover.

By the way, why wasn't this hatchet-job printed in the "opinion" section?

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11. Comment by Lindsey S. (Lindsey TS) — November 15,2009 @ 9:25AM
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#4

"I just looked up Gifford's voting record, and she appears to be serving her constituents well."

Gabby voted for the 2,000 page health care insurance reform bill that will bankrupt this country. I will vote against her in 2010, no matter who runs against her.

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12. Comment by Lindsey S. (Lindsey TS) — November 15,2009 @ 9:27AM
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#7

So what?? Last I looked, we still have free speech in this country. I, myself, support various candidates and will exercise my right to free speech.

If you don't like what the poster has to say, move on.

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13. Comment by Edmund W. (edmundowin) — November 15,2009 @ 9:44AM
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This shameful stunt is just another example of why the entire state of Arizona is humiliated at every turn by our so-called representatives.

Kyl, McCain and this dope - also the woman representative (I can't remember her name....) who stated on the air, in front of the world, that this world is 6,000 years old. Yep - that's 6 thousand years old. Someone wants to talk STUPID... we have them in bundles here in Arizona. Almost as bad as Michele Bachman from Minnesota. Brain frozen .... ye Gods....

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14. Comment by Jay T. (Jay RT) — November 15,2009 @ 9:44AM
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OKAY, John Shadegg is bought and paid for by the huge contributions he receives from Big Business.
How else could those words fall out of his mouth when more tha 70% of the people he was sent to represent want Health Care Reform. If Healthcare is affordable and every citizen can get health insurance we are better off. The health Insurance companies should be Non-Profit companies. That would changt everything. John Shadegg grow a spine and vote for the citizens in Arizona.
If the bills presented are bad for the Voters, change it. Don't throw the"Baby" out with the wash water.

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15. Comment by Robert S. (rstar1) — November 15,2009 @ 9:45AM
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#2
"Rep. Pete Stark of California, a democrat, brought his twin pre-adolescent age children in as props (same as Shadegg with with his chief of staff's baby) to illustrate his views on the health care bill. So everyone who wants to pass judgment on Shadegg for his speech with a child, be careful, your glass houses are showing!"

How do you equate non-political office holding people with throwing stones in a glass house with our mockery of those two showboating politicians thinking they are proving their points, when instead, they are just making asses out of themselves?

It takes a tenuous, head scratching leap for you to make that "glass house" criticism fit!

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16. Comment by william a. (billannie) — November 15,2009 @ 10:05AM
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Just how delusional can Shadegg get?

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17. Comment by Rachel C. (RachelCos) — November 15,2009 @ 10:06AM
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Almost all Republican officeholders ARE ventriloquists...who's got their hand inside their mouth moving their lips???

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18. Comment by john z. (juan4theroad) — November 15,2009 @ 10:09AM
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I think voting for the health care bill IS representing the desires of the MAJORITY of their district, just not the vocal MINORITY.

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19. Comment by lew s. (azlew) — November 15,2009 @ 10:13AM
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Let's not bankrupt the country. Let's just bankrupt each and every citizen when insurance companies dump them in the middle of a medical catastrophe. Think it can't happen to you?

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20. Comment by Peter K. (Sweet Pete) — November 15,2009 @ 10:20AM
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"You see, Maddie knows that if this bill passes it says that her mom's health care goes away and won't be around in five years."

Obviously baby Maddie or Shadegg don't know Jack!

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21. Comment by lew s. (azlew) — November 15,2009 @ 10:27AM
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Here's an excellent graphic on who got contributions from the health industry.

Of our Arizona representatives in the House, well, what do you know, John Shadegg got $1,025,825 -- more than the rest of the delegation COMBINED.

Thanks, Maddie! I hear you loud and clear.

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22. Comment by Ron P. (Striper) — November 15,2009 @ 10:31AM
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The reason the left wing loons and their allies in the State controlled media are upset, is because they did not get to do it first. Shadegg beat them to it and it makes them mad.

23. Comment by James N. (Gene) — November 15,2009 @ 11:08AM
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#11, The majority of Giffords' constituents not only want health care reform, but also favor a public option to keep the insurance companies honest. The bussed in and deluded people who screamed at the town halls last summer do not represent the majority of Americans.

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24. Comment by Lindsey S. (Lindsey TS) — November 15,2009 @ 11:17AM
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#11

Just about everything the feds control and run are broke.

Medicare
Medicaid
Social Security
AMTRAK
F-MAE
F-MAC

How do you think they are going to manage health care? They will raise taxes even more or print more dollars, which equals inflation.

No thanks -

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25. Comment by lew s. (azlew) — November 15,2009 @ 11:23AM
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#24
Then the government should run health care like the private insurance companies do. If you're sick, no coverage for you. If you get sick, move to the side of the road and die. They'd keep the books balanced -- and that's the only important thing, right? Make sure there's plenty of profit for the fat cats.

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26. Comment by Robert R. (gaijin) — November 15,2009 @ 11:32AM
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#10 says "Maddie knows of what she "speaks""

But #10 does not. Jut goes with the same neobot claptrap we can hear on fox news on a daily basis. Nothing new here just a constant rehash of rnc talking points..

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27. Comment by Robert R. (gaijin) — November 15,2009 @ 11:36AM
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#24 More of the same. Do you get emails from the rnc and repost them ???

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28. Comment by francis w. (6565) — November 15,2009 @ 11:45AM
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Re Shadegg's stunt: Why not?. John Edwards channeled a fetus in a courtroom and made a $6.5 million for his clients (minus his share of $2 million or so), and was later rewarded with a senate seat and a place on the democrat presidential ticket in 2004.

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29. Comment by Charles S. (CharDog) — November 15,2009 @ 11:50AM
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As posted above...

Gabrielle Giffords:

Voted for:

* Extending Federal Emergency Unemployment Benefits and Providing Business and Homebuyer Tax Credits
* Student Aid Program Modifications
* FDA Oversight of Tobacco Products
* Lilly Ledbetter Pay Act (equal pay for women)
* Recognition of the Importance of Christmas and Christianity H Res 847
* Prohibiting Federal Assistance to ACORN
* CHIP Reauthorization Act of 2009
* Allowing Loaded Guns in National Parks

Voted NO on
* Supplemental Appropriations for the Cash for Clunkers Program.
FOR MORE INFORMATION: http://www.giffordsforcongress.com/
VOTE FOR GIFFORDS IN 2010!

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30. Comment by Taiylor .. (taiylor) — November 15,2009 @ 12:09PM
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Wikipedia:

Originally ventriloquism was a religious practice. The name comes from the Latin for to speak from the stomach; the Greeks called this gastromancy (Greek: εγγαστριμυθία). The noises produced by the stomach were thought to be the voices of the dead, who took up residence in the stomach of the ventriloquist. The ventriloquist would then interpret the sounds, as they were thought able to speak to the dead, as well as to foretell the future

Conservatives voting for the future.

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31. Comment by bernard f. (mosinguy) — November 15,2009 @ 1:36PM
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forget it Charles, facts are of no interest to many on this board, and Lindsay, this country of ours is and has been bankrupt financially and morally for a very long time. Stop voting for democrats and republicans. All politicians are beholden to their special interest handlers. Start voting for people who have out inte4rests at heart and who really need the paycheck.

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32. Comment by Charles S. (CharDog) — November 15,2009 @ 1:46PM
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As long as they aren't Fox News Tea Partiers or Party of No candidates.

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33. Comment by Robert S. (rstar1) — November 15,2009 @ 1:55PM
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#31
"forget it Charles, facts are of no interest to many on this board, and Lindsay, this country of ours is and has been bankrupt financially and morally for a very long time. Stop voting for democrats and republicans. All politicians are beholden to their special interest handlers. Start voting for people who have out inte4rests at heart and who really need the paycheck"

Can you tell us where they are...just ONE name will do!

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34. Comment by Art H. (sandbags) — November 15,2009 @ 2:11PM
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so, Linda 7, are you OK with blocking the shills for Giffords as well? Rules are rules, you know.

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35. Comment by Art H. (sandbags) — November 15,2009 @ 2:16PM
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The majority of Giffords' constituents not only want health care reform, but also favor a public option to keep the insurance companies honest.

Data, gene 23? That is at least the 2nd such claim in this thread, and no link to polling data to back up your claim.

provide hard data, please. or an apology for making it up.

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36. Comment by Charles S. (CharDog) — November 15,2009 @ 3:18PM
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You demand proof Art yet offer none to back up you dissenting view. The numbers (TU/TD) so far show you wrong. I for one think that big insurance needs to be reined in, the Republicans on the other hand support big business at everyone's expense.

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37. Comment by Art H. (sandbags) — November 15,2009 @ 6:32PM
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You demand proof Art yet offer none to back up you dissenting view.

Charles - you might want to try actually reading my post. I very carefully did NOT offer a view one way or another.

You made a claim you can't back up with polling data. My challenge stands.

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38. Comment by Pamela C. (85652) — November 20,2009 @ 12:46PM
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•Recognition of the Importance of Christmas and Christianity H Res 847

Exactly how much money did this resolution cost the taxpayers?

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