Cities agree to collaborate on economic development in both regions.
1. Comment by Joann H. (jh)— August 12,2008 @ 8:52AM
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This arrangement is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
Public and Private Partnerships PPPs, and Nongovernmental Organizations NGOs, making deals outside of Federal Government is a form of Regionalism and a stripping away of our sovereignty.
These are the little steps with foreign countries, that PPPs and NGO are setting in place via regionalism from non elected representatives. This is against the law.
This is how the European Union was pulled off against the will of it's citizens, and the same steps are taking place with this type of regionalism and uncontrolled illegal immigration, which is creating the road to the North American Union.
Loss of sovereignty by a thousands cuts and the stratagem of one of the cuts made by the blades of PPPs and NGO.
4. Comment by Vicky D. (eyeswideoopen)— August 12,2008 @ 10:13AM
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Dialectic Materialism was Karl Marx's idea of opposing forces continually uniting at higher levels.
Regionalism which is what this story is about - creating an economic development zone across international borders - is dialectic materialism.
What they are trying to do is to break up the United States as a nation and to create a continental (regional) "governance" structure under the United Nations COMMUNIST system.
The Arizona-Sonora Economic Region is a breakaway zone. Another breakaway region is the Pacific Northwest Economic Region that includes Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Alberta, British Columbia, Yukon, and Alaska.
It's a crime against the sovereignty of the United States and anybody involved in it should be treated accordingly.
Arizona – Sonora Regional Economic Indicators Tracking progress towards regional economic integration of Arizona and Sonora.
The Arizona – Sonora Regional Economic Indicators project, initiated in 1997, monitors the region’s progress towards economic integration and global competitiveness.
The report helps decision-makers understand the economic changes in the Arizona-Sonora region and support policies that promote economic transformation, investment and entrepreneurship.
The indicators represent an original way of measuring the two neighboring states of Arizona and Sonora as a single economic region. Findings are presented bi-annually in the Arizona-Sonora Region Report that summarizes trends and grades the region’s relative performance using four indexes: NAFTA, Regional Economic Integration, Economic Foundation, and Human Enhancement.
The Arizona – Sonora Indicators Report serves as a valuable tool for policymakers by highlighting the regions’ strengths as well as directions for improvement.
8. Comment by giovanni c. (gc98405)— August 12,2008 @ 12:14PM
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#2 Yes, having looked at those sections of the constitution you pointed out i do not see the relevance of them honestly. Section 8 - The Congress shall have power to... regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes; Section 10 - No state shall, without the consent of Congress, lay any duty of tonnage, keep troops, or ships of war in time of peace, enter into any agreement or compact with another state, or with a foreign power...
Tucson is not a state, it is a city. There is nothing mentioned prohibiting cities, private parties or NGOs from entering into agreements with cities in other countries.
#4 It's called dialectical materialism for starters, the principal that, “history is the product of class struggle” - (Karl Marx). The dialectics concern, “the law of the unity and conflict of opposites; the law of the passage of quantitative changes into qualitative changes; the law of the negation of the negation” - (Fredrick Engels), while materialism can be summarized as, “the limit within which we have hitherto known matter disappears and that our knowledge is penetrating deeper; properties of matter are disappearing that formerly seemed absolute, immutable and primary, and which are now revealed to be relative and characteristic only of certain states of matter.”
Why you even mentioned it is beyond me though. The Arizona-Sonora Economic Region, Atlantica, and the Pacific Northwest Economic Region are nothing but capitalist schemes. And to refer to “United Nations COMMUNIST system” proves you know absolutely nothing about communism. Communism cannot be achieved until every nation in the world has undergone the socialist transformation. Or did you forget to study Karl Marx Collected Works?
What they've done is to use systems analysis to redesign the continental economy as an integrated whole - then splitting out regions according to their new economic design.
Arizona and Sonora are in an economic development region obviously because of the proximity and the similarities of climate, etc. on the assumption that they would have similar businesses in the region. Same for the Pacific Northwest Economic Region (PNWER).
Add to the planning of the economy, the link between education and the economic development zone. The idea is to plan the curriculum of the schools - tailoring it to the requirements of the businesses within the zone. In that way, the schools become the supply chain of labor for the regional economy. Children are simply factors of production for businesses within the zone.
The reason all of this is coming out of a University is because it is obviously unconstitutional and socialist. The "framework" for new federalism (reinvention of government) as begun by Al Gore during the Clinton Administration effectively changed the way the government implements programs. Congress passes skeleton legislation - with the implementation of the COMMUNIST agenda being done by universities and "public private partnerships (PPP)". In reality, the PPP's are an arrangement in which public officials can be bought off as was the case in Idaho. The 5 Mayors around Boise formed a partnership (Treasure Valley Partners), applied for a grant from the EPA and got $500,000. For that $500,000 they did a study that probabaly was worth maybe $25,000 being very generous. Since the money was a grant to a "private group" there was no accountability for the money. Very, very obvious payoff to create a regional planning organization on top of the existing city/county governments - cannabalizing their own power structures as elected representatives.
12. Comment by Vicky D. (eyeswideoopen)— August 12,2008 @ 12:49PM
Ratings:-6+6
Giovanni, communism is about more than ownership of businesses. It's the system of "governance" that is the issue. The communists operate as cells dictating the policies of government and that's what the PPP system of "governance" is - and that's the United Nations system - except that they refer to their cells as NGO's.
I don't care whether it's called dialectical materialism or dialectic materialism. It's the concept that is important.
“A philosophy founded by Karl Marx… which forms the basis of Communist doctrine: it combines the materialistic idea of matter over mind with the Hegelian dialectic in which opposing forces are constantly being reunited at a higher level.” -- Lexicon Webster Dictionary
Regionalism is DIALECTICAL (happy now?) Materialism because it combines the power of existing elected, representative government at a higher level - run by unelected appointees that follow the directives of whom? The Comintern.
Precisely what do you think the Arizona-Sonora and PNWER are about? How about the transformation to socialism? I believe I made that point - but I guess you lost it in your attempt to dazzle us with your knowledge of Karl Marx. Marx by the way is listed as an economist not a philosopher.
This is not the only source - it's just one:
http://www.jinfo.org/Economists.html
As far as regionalism being a capitalist plot, that's pretty funny - as if there is a difference between capitalists and socialists. Communism is the cheapest way to maintain the slaves for capitalism. Look at China.
13. Comment by Joann H. (jh)— August 12,2008 @ 1:05PM
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@ Gio:
RE: #7, The phrase "Regional Economic Integration" flows throughout the language in this section. Why do we need economic integration with Mexico? The first steps are economic integration, then the free movement between goods and people, then policy integration. What would be the next step logically to this stratagem ... continental consolidation, all slow steps to a one world government.
RE #2, Your remark, "Tucson is not a state it is a city", that is the only statement I can agree with you. As intelligent as our founding fathers were to add this to the Constitution in referencing the state, the point must be made that especially cities, PPPs, and NGOs, should also follow the requirements of the Constitution. Actually this is a run around the Constitution as the Security and Prosperity Partnership is a run around from Congress. However, if you want to get technical Napolitano signs agreement with Sonora on security
An interesting link listed on AU's page is: Global Advantage Interesting in they have a networks in Tucson, AZ, and Ottawa and Ontario Canada, (as well as England and Germany). I don't really know what task they perform other than heavy partnerships globally.
14. Comment by Vicky D. (eyeswideoopen)— August 12,2008 @ 1:32PM
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In April of 2000, the U.S. Embassies in Paris and Berlin, together with the Aspen Institutes in those cities held an international conference for city mayors. It was called the Transatlantic Summit Mayors Summit. Felix Royhatyn - then Ambassador to France organized it in cooperation with Thomas J. Cochran of the U.S. Conference of Mayors.
The message to mayors that attended was that they would have to formulate their own foreign policies. Now why do you suppose that was? Why would they tell Mayor Brent Coles from Podunk - Boise Idaho - that he would have to formulate his own foreign policy?
It's because the goal is to break nation states. Socialist global "governance" - policy set by the COMINTERN and delivered to the local areas by NGO's, PPP's and facilitated by universities also bought off with grant money - loaded with leftist professors just waiting for the big moment of a fully communist world.
And where did the idea for the international conference originate from? The 'President's Council on Sustainable Development' PCSD - working together with Mikhail Gorbachev at the Presideo to formulate the plans for the transformation of the United States to a socialist region under the COMMUNIST United Nations system of "governance" - using the environment as the means for economic and social transformation.
Gio, cities are not nation-states operating independently. They have to follow the constitution same as the states, the congress, the government, the military, and the people.
15. Comment by Joann H. (jh)— August 12,2008 @ 2:03PM
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Well said and documented Vicky. Bravo.
The only reason I am taking the time out of my research day to post these many comments, is I feel a responsibility to share with others the information I have been researching during the past three years.
The journey to a one world government by global elite and corporations is the only conclusion that makes sense of the chaos.
16. Comment by alex c. (#4381)— August 12,2008 @ 2:04PM
Ratings:-7+3
aw calm down. I read about these agreements being signed all the time, with the city, with Pima College, with the UA - I think it's some mexican's job to just come up with these agreements and get pictures of them in the paper. But for all the agreements signed, I've never actually seen or heard of anything ever happening.
17. Comment by giovanni c. (gc98405)— August 12,2008 @ 2:09PM
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#9 Socialism without the state being violently overthrown would not be possible. Is socialism were to exist, capitalist businesses would cease to exist, the military would be stripped of it's current leadership and the existing government would need to be crushed. To think that socialism can exist without revolution is utterly nescient; Salvador Allende attempted that in Chile and had his government crushed by a coup which led to Pinochet coming to power and unleashing the death squads.
#12 Dialectical materialism is much more advanced than Hegelian dialectics. As for this statement, “Communism is the cheapest way to maintain the slaves for capitalism. Look at China.” You are partially correct. As i have said before, communism is not possible within one country. What they call socialism in China however is nothing more that state capitalism. Lenin was talking about the dangers of state capitalism shortly before his death. The rulers in the “Peoples” Republic of China get paid a fortune, while the masses get crumbs. The rulers get limousines, mansions, fine dinner and an assortment of other luxuries while the masses get bicycles, huts or tiny apartments, barely enough food to eat and little else. And the masses have no ability, no right to criticize the government. What they have there is the antithesis of a revolutionary society, it is the ultimate sell-out and the government has the audacity to call itself socialist and those who work in it are shameless enough or brainwashed enough to call themselves communists.
20. Comment by Vicky D. (eyeswideoopen)— August 12,2008 @ 2:37PM
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Gio,
What you are lacking is imagination. This is the 21st century. Never again will peasants with pitchforks storm the castle - but that doesn't mean that revolutions are not possible. In fact, there was one in the U.S. It was a 21st century administrative coup d'etat.
Why didn't you hear about it? "Corporate Media". They keep people entertained with stories like Edwards affair (who cares!) and they report only slivers of information that they spin like a top.
The proof of the coup d'etat and revolution is that the people at the University of Arizona and the city of Tucson are committing treason - but nobody is prosecuting them and that's because what they are doing is what was intended by the traitors who enabled the breakdown in our system of government.
Where you get the idea that communism can't be implemented in one country, I have no idea but you couldn't be more wrong. You can implement communism with any group of people and if the group is less than 100 - it probably will be successful (Kibbutz probably spelled incorrectly). Over 100 people and you have to use force (police state).
Giovanni, what's being done to our country is being done to all countries. It's a "global" system remember?
Perhaps you will understand better the nature of the global economy if you research Wassily Leontief's InPut/OutPut Analyst, B2B Global Supply Chain management, the roll of big box stores, the global transportation system and networks, etc., WTO and the 'free trade' agreements (investor rights), etc.
23. Comment by Joann H. (jh)— August 12,2008 @ 3:24PM
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Steven:
I'm out of the loop on Rio Nuevo, however, from a search on this site, the cutting edge of this statement speaks for itself:
"Given Rio Nuevo's abysmal performance in accounting for the $77 million spent so far, this is not enough."
77 million and still no glorified barrio or bridge. I really can't speak to this because of my lack of research and knowledge of the project. But if they have spent 77 million so far ... then my question would be FOR WHAT?
25. Comment by Joann H. (jh)— August 12,2008 @ 3:55PM
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#24:
LOL, there won't be an issue of back, the issue will be US, Canada, and Mexico is one. And if you think we have problems now with border states running in the red on budgets: Arizona budget deficit labeled country's worst just wait until the North American Union shows it's ugly head.
26. Comment by Rocky T. (Rocky)— August 12,2008 @ 4:12PM
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Did you guys hear that there are 642 communists in the State Department, that Vladimir Putin is fluoridating the Rio Nuevo, and Angelina Jolie is sapping our precious bodily fluids? And that Bill and Hillary are murdering everyone who knows these truths?
27. Comment by Joann H. (jh)— August 12,2008 @ 4:37PM
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28. Comment by Steven S. (sgsmith)— August 12,2008 @ 4:51PM
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Joann H.
Darn. I guess this means we’re still “it” for this over-priced, over-hyped, over-budget monument to local government waste.
I wonder if Tucson plans to replicate the Plaza del Sol shopping center in Guadalajara, pictured with the article, as a replacement for all the pie-in-the-sky plans that Tucson could never get off the ground.
31. Comment by giovanni c. (gc98405)— August 12,2008 @ 10:52PM
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#20 An administrative coup d'etat is not the same thing as a revolution. In fact you say here, “The proof of the coup d'etat and revolution” when the two terms are contradictory. Likewise, while it is more likely than not that we won't see “peasants with pitchforks storm the castle” there always is the potential for revolution to occur with much more modern military equipment anywhere, oftentimes in the places we least expect it.
You go on to say “the people at the University of Arizona and the city of Tucson are committing treason”. Are you aware of the fact that treason is a charge that has brought against less than thirty people in the US: eight were convicted. the United States Code §2381 states "whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States." That is one of the recurring problems i have noticed here is people talk of treason and traitors without actually knowing the legal definition.
Then you say, “You can implement communism with any group of people and if the group is less than 100 - it probably will be successful (Kibbutz probably spelled incorrectly). Over 100 people and you have to use force (police state).” There are communes, they function in a communalist manner which is defined by the Random House Unabridged Dictionary as – a theory or system of government according to which each commune is virtually an independent state and the nation is merely a federation of such states. That is not communism however. In fact just to throw a monkeywrench at you, after the revolution Fredrick Engels wrote, “The first act by which the state really comes forward as the representative of the whole of society — the taking possession of the means of production in the name of society — is also its last independent act as a state. State interference in social relations becomes, in one domain after another, superfluous, and then dies down of itself. The government of persons is replaced by the administration of things, and by the conduct of processes of production. The state is not 'abolished'. It withers away. This gives the measure of the value of the phrase 'a free people's state'”...
And as for the WTO, the free trade agreements and what not, those are tools of imperialism allowing fewer, and fewer multinational corporations to expoit more and more people.
33. Comment by giovanni c. (gc98405)— August 12,2008 @ 11:10PM
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#29 “There is truth in the saying ... a camel is a horse designed by committee.” Tell that to someone in the Middle East or North Africa and they would laugh their head off. A horse is useless there, it would not survive in that climate.
35. Comment by Joann H. (jh)— August 13,2008 @ 8:36AM
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#33: Actually, the Arabian horse was perfected there (in the past) before Mercedes Benz came along, and instrumental in their military to quickly move around the dessert.
I'll bet if you ask any one there if they prefer to ride a horse or camel, the answer will be a horse.
Time to put these meandering off topic issues to bed and deal the agenda of cities and states partnering with foreign countries.
37. Comment by Vicky D. (eyeswideoopen)— August 13,2008 @ 9:18AM
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Gio,
The revolution began in the 1980's with Reagan's supply side economics. I don't think I was alone in thinking that the Reagan Revolution was mere political rhetoric. As it turns out - it wasn't. It was the beginning of a corporate led revolution leading to the fascist, out of control government we have now. Corporations use the weapons of money, media and paid puppets and useful idiots. They have the capacity to spawn an infinite number of "special interest" front groups pretending to serve public interest when what they really serve is a corporate interest. I stumbled across one story that was a real eye opener for me (no pun intended).
The final coup d'grace on our government came on September 11. "Terrorism" is the golden goose for corporate interests that have taken over our government. A high technology police state is being implemented - not just in the U.S. but worldwide allegedly to "fight terrorism". But what it actually is - is an electronic prison for "workers" that will ensure their slave status throughout eternity.
You don't have to believe me on that. Listen carefully to these webcasts that were made at a forum sponsored by the Council on Competitiveness.
http://trade.gov/competitiveness/ACF/webcasts.asp
In particular, listen the one titled, "Supporting National and Regional Innovation for Economic Prosperity". And listen very closely to Jorge Gerdau. What you'll hear is that corporations won't be competing in the future. Rather it will be regions of people competing against other regions of people - gladiator workers - working for a bowl of gruel.
That's the future you are working for by aiding and abetting in the agenda to destroy U.S., Mexican and Canadian sovereignty - creating a continental pool of "workers".
38. Comment by Jimi W. (Jimmi)— August 13,2008 @ 9:23AM
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Laws, laws, we don't need no stinking laws! Since when does the federal government follow it's own laws, much less the constitution? They are bent, ignored, unenforced, underfunded, all sorts of ways to skirt the constitution. The feds are experts at it besides, they have all those activist judges to shop around for when they are challenged. So, put your precious constitution back into the Smithsonian where it belongs, we don't use nor need it anymore. We have the UN and the world court. We have our guns.
39. Comment by Joann H. (jh)— August 13,2008 @ 11:41AM
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Vicky:
I tried to download and listen to the link from: Council of Competitiveness and obviously they have removed it from public view. That forum must have been full of disclosures for that organization to remove it from the public eye.
The study on Hidden Rivers appears to be interesting and I will go through it later today.
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Tucson partners with Guadalajara
Cities agree to collaborate on economic development in both regions.This arrangement is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
Public and Private Partnerships PPPs, and Nongovernmental Organizations NGOs, making deals outside of Federal Government is a form of Regionalism and a stripping away of our sovereignty.
These are the little steps with foreign countries, that PPPs and NGO are setting in place via regionalism from non elected representatives. This is against the law.
This is how the European Union was pulled off against the will of it's citizens, and the same steps are taking place with this type of regionalism and uncontrolled illegal immigration, which is creating the road to the North American Union.
Loss of sovereignty by a thousands cuts and the stratagem of one of the cuts made by the blades of PPPs and NGO.
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Constitution:
Article 1, section 8 and 10 Congress has this responsibility and states are prohibited from these actions.
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In addition, this is funded by our TAX DOLLARS.
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Dialectic Materialism was Karl Marx's idea of opposing forces continually uniting at higher levels.
Regionalism which is what this story is about - creating an economic development zone across international borders - is dialectic materialism.
What they are trying to do is to break up the United States as a nation and to create a continental (regional) "governance" structure under the United Nations COMMUNIST system.
The Arizona-Sonora Economic Region is a breakaway zone. Another breakaway region is the Pacific Northwest Economic Region that includes Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Alberta, British Columbia, Yukon, and Alaska.
It's a crime against the sovereignty of the United States and anybody involved in it should be treated accordingly.
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Thanks to both of you. Well said Vicky.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=pKFKGrmsBDk
Please call in now!
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Excellent video RT, the message is loud and clear.
Thanks for the link.
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A page from the UA site:
Regional Economic Development
Arizona – Sonora Regional Economic Indicators Tracking progress towards regional economic integration of Arizona and Sonora.
The Arizona – Sonora Regional Economic Indicators project, initiated in 1997, monitors the region’s progress towards economic integration and global competitiveness.
The report helps decision-makers understand the economic changes in the Arizona-Sonora region and support policies that promote economic transformation, investment and entrepreneurship.
The indicators represent an original way of measuring the two neighboring states of Arizona and Sonora as a single economic region. Findings are presented bi-annually in the Arizona-Sonora Region Report that summarizes trends and grades the region’s relative performance using four indexes: NAFTA, Regional Economic Integration, Economic Foundation, and Human Enhancement.
The Arizona – Sonora Indicators Report serves as a valuable tool for policymakers by highlighting the regions’ strengths as well as directions for improvement.
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#2 Yes, having looked at those sections of the constitution you pointed out i do not see the relevance of them honestly. Section 8 - The Congress shall have power to... regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes; Section 10 - No state shall, without the consent of Congress, lay any duty of tonnage, keep troops, or ships of war in time of peace, enter into any agreement or compact with another state, or with a foreign power...
Tucson is not a state, it is a city. There is nothing mentioned prohibiting cities, private parties or NGOs from entering into agreements with cities in other countries.
#4 It's called dialectical materialism for starters, the principal that, “history is the product of class struggle” - (Karl Marx). The dialectics concern, “the law of the unity and conflict of opposites; the law of the passage of quantitative changes into qualitative changes; the law of the negation of the negation” - (Fredrick Engels), while materialism can be summarized as, “the limit within which we have hitherto known matter disappears and that our knowledge is penetrating deeper; properties of matter are disappearing that formerly seemed absolute, immutable and primary, and which are now revealed to be relative and characteristic only of certain states of matter.”
Why you even mentioned it is beyond me though. The Arizona-Sonora Economic Region, Atlantica, and the Pacific Northwest Economic Region are nothing but capitalist schemes. And to refer to “United Nations COMMUNIST system” proves you know absolutely nothing about communism. Communism cannot be achieved until every nation in the world has undergone the socialist transformation. Or did you forget to study Karl Marx Collected Works?
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What you are seeing is a planned, socialist economy as it is being created.
See page 4 of this presentation:
http://oepa.arizona.edu/Lib/Media/Docs/TCRD_overview.pdf
What they've done is to use systems analysis to redesign the continental economy as an integrated whole - then splitting out regions according to their new economic design.
Arizona and Sonora are in an economic development region obviously because of the proximity and the similarities of climate, etc. on the assumption that they would have similar businesses in the region. Same for the Pacific Northwest Economic Region (PNWER).
Add to the planning of the economy, the link between education and the economic development zone. The idea is to plan the curriculum of the schools - tailoring it to the requirements of the businesses within the zone. In that way, the schools become the supply chain of labor for the regional economy. Children are simply factors of production for businesses within the zone.
http://www.channelingreality.com/NAU/regionalism_and_education.htm
The reason all of this is coming out of a University is because it is obviously unconstitutional and socialist. The "framework" for new federalism (reinvention of government) as begun by Al Gore during the Clinton Administration effectively changed the way the government implements programs. Congress passes skeleton legislation - with the implementation of the COMMUNIST agenda being done by universities and "public private partnerships (PPP)". In reality, the PPP's are an arrangement in which public officials can be bought off as was the case in Idaho. The 5 Mayors around Boise formed a partnership (Treasure Valley Partners), applied for a grant from the EPA and got $500,000. For that $500,000 they did a study that probabaly was worth maybe $25,000 being very generous. Since the money was a grant to a "private group" there was no accountability for the money. Very, very obvious payoff to create a regional planning organization on top of the existing city/county governments - cannabalizing their own power structures as elected representatives.
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#7 Yeah, So?
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I must agree with #1.... this is not only outrageous but unconstitutional on its face. Globalist antics at their worst.
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Giovanni, communism is about more than ownership of businesses. It's the system of "governance" that is the issue. The communists operate as cells dictating the policies of government and that's what the PPP system of "governance" is - and that's the United Nations system - except that they refer to their cells as NGO's.
I don't care whether it's called dialectical materialism or dialectic materialism. It's the concept that is important.
“A philosophy founded by Karl Marx… which forms the basis of Communist doctrine: it combines the materialistic idea of matter over mind with the Hegelian dialectic in which opposing forces are constantly being reunited at a higher level.” -- Lexicon Webster Dictionary
Regionalism is DIALECTICAL (happy now?) Materialism because it combines the power of existing elected, representative government at a higher level - run by unelected appointees that follow the directives of whom? The Comintern.
Precisely what do you think the Arizona-Sonora and PNWER are about? How about the transformation to socialism? I believe I made that point - but I guess you lost it in your attempt to dazzle us with your knowledge of Karl Marx. Marx by the way is listed as an economist not a philosopher.
This is not the only source - it's just one:
http://www.jinfo.org/Economists.html
As far as regionalism being a capitalist plot, that's pretty funny - as if there is a difference between capitalists and socialists. Communism is the cheapest way to maintain the slaves for capitalism. Look at China.
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@ Gio:
RE: #7, The phrase "Regional Economic Integration" flows throughout the language in this section. Why do we need economic integration with Mexico? The first steps are economic integration, then the free movement between goods and people, then policy integration. What would be the next step logically to this stratagem ... continental consolidation, all slow steps to a one world government.
RE #2, Your remark, "Tucson is not a state it is a city", that is the only statement I can agree with you. As intelligent as our founding fathers were to add this to the Constitution in referencing the state, the point must be made that especially cities, PPPs, and NGOs, should also follow the requirements of the Constitution. Actually this is a run around the Constitution as the Security and Prosperity Partnership is a run around from Congress. However, if you want to get technical Napolitano signs agreement with Sonora on security
An interesting link listed on AU's page is: Global Advantage Interesting in they have a networks in Tucson, AZ, and Ottawa and Ontario Canada, (as well as England and Germany). I don't really know what task they perform other than heavy partnerships globally.
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In April of 2000, the U.S. Embassies in Paris and Berlin, together with the Aspen Institutes in those cities held an international conference for city mayors. It was called the Transatlantic Summit Mayors Summit. Felix Royhatyn - then Ambassador to France organized it in cooperation with Thomas J. Cochran of the U.S. Conference of Mayors.
The message to mayors that attended was that they would have to formulate their own foreign policies. Now why do you suppose that was? Why would they tell Mayor Brent Coles from Podunk - Boise Idaho - that he would have to formulate his own foreign policy?
It's because the goal is to break nation states. Socialist global "governance" - policy set by the COMINTERN and delivered to the local areas by NGO's, PPP's and facilitated by universities also bought off with grant money - loaded with leftist professors just waiting for the big moment of a fully communist world.
And where did the idea for the international conference originate from? The 'President's Council on Sustainable Development' PCSD - working together with Mikhail Gorbachev at the Presideo to formulate the plans for the transformation of the United States to a socialist region under the COMMUNIST United Nations system of "governance" - using the environment as the means for economic and social transformation.
http://www.channelingreality.com/NAU/International_Cities.htm
Gio, cities are not nation-states operating independently. They have to follow the constitution same as the states, the congress, the government, the military, and the people.
http://www.channelingreality.com/NAU/International_Cities.htm
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Well said and documented Vicky. Bravo.
The only reason I am taking the time out of my research day to post these many comments, is I feel a responsibility to share with others the information I have been researching during the past three years.
The journey to a one world government by global elite and corporations is the only conclusion that makes sense of the chaos.
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aw calm down. I read about these agreements being signed all the time, with the city, with Pima College, with the UA - I think it's some mexican's job to just come up with these agreements and get pictures of them in the paper. But for all the agreements signed, I've never actually seen or heard of anything ever happening.
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#9 Socialism without the state being violently overthrown would not be possible. Is socialism were to exist, capitalist businesses would cease to exist, the military would be stripped of it's current leadership and the existing government would need to be crushed. To think that socialism can exist without revolution is utterly nescient; Salvador Allende attempted that in Chile and had his government crushed by a coup which led to Pinochet coming to power and unleashing the death squads.
#12 Dialectical materialism is much more advanced than Hegelian dialectics. As for this statement, “Communism is the cheapest way to maintain the slaves for capitalism. Look at China.” You are partially correct. As i have said before, communism is not possible within one country. What they call socialism in China however is nothing more that state capitalism. Lenin was talking about the dangers of state capitalism shortly before his death. The rulers in the “Peoples” Republic of China get paid a fortune, while the masses get crumbs. The rulers get limousines, mansions, fine dinner and an assortment of other luxuries while the masses get bicycles, huts or tiny apartments, barely enough food to eat and little else. And the masses have no ability, no right to criticize the government. What they have there is the antithesis of a revolutionary society, it is the ultimate sell-out and the government has the audacity to call itself socialist and those who work in it are shameless enough or brainwashed enough to call themselves communists.
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Interesting how some of the viewers are voting Vicky and I down, could it be we have principals of these orgs. who are voting, but fail to respond?
I would really like to hear the down voters side, speak up and discuss the issues.
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Gio,
What you are lacking is imagination. This is the 21st century. Never again will peasants with pitchforks storm the castle - but that doesn't mean that revolutions are not possible. In fact, there was one in the U.S. It was a 21st century administrative coup d'etat.
Why didn't you hear about it? "Corporate Media". They keep people entertained with stories like Edwards affair (who cares!) and they report only slivers of information that they spin like a top.
The proof of the coup d'etat and revolution is that the people at the University of Arizona and the city of Tucson are committing treason - but nobody is prosecuting them and that's because what they are doing is what was intended by the traitors who enabled the breakdown in our system of government.
Where you get the idea that communism can't be implemented in one country, I have no idea but you couldn't be more wrong. You can implement communism with any group of people and if the group is less than 100 - it probably will be successful (Kibbutz probably spelled incorrectly). Over 100 people and you have to use force (police state).
Giovanni, what's being done to our country is being done to all countries. It's a "global" system remember?
Perhaps you will understand better the nature of the global economy if you research Wassily Leontief's InPut/OutPut Analyst, B2B Global Supply Chain management, the roll of big box stores, the global transportation system and networks, etc., WTO and the 'free trade' agreements (investor rights), etc.
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OK — so with all the social-political meanderings and rants aside, who gets Rio Nuevo?
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Get ready for the New World Order!
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Steven:
I'm out of the loop on Rio Nuevo, however, from a search on this site, the cutting edge of this statement speaks for itself:
"Given Rio Nuevo's abysmal performance in accounting for the $77 million spent so far, this is not enough."
77 million and still no glorified barrio or bridge. I really can't speak to this because of my lack of research and knowledge of the project. But if they have spent 77 million so far ... then my question would be FOR WHAT?
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Does this mean they'll come and take their people back?
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#24:
LOL, there won't be an issue of back, the issue will be US, Canada, and Mexico is one. And if you think we have problems now with border states running in the red on budgets: Arizona budget deficit labeled country's worst just wait until the North American Union shows it's ugly head.
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Did you guys hear that there are 642 communists in the State Department, that Vladimir Putin is fluoridating the Rio Nuevo, and Angelina Jolie is sapping our precious bodily fluids? And that Bill and Hillary are murdering everyone who knows these truths?
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Joann H.
Darn. I guess this means we’re still “it” for this over-priced, over-hyped, over-budget monument to local government waste.
I wonder if Tucson plans to replicate the Plaza del Sol shopping center in Guadalajara, pictured with the article, as a replacement for all the pie-in-the-sky plans that Tucson could never get off the ground.
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Steven:
I totally agree with you.
There is truth in the saying ... a camel is a horse designed by committee.
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Great job, ladies. Thanks for the info.
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#20 An administrative coup d'etat is not the same thing as a revolution. In fact you say here, “The proof of the coup d'etat and revolution” when the two terms are contradictory. Likewise, while it is more likely than not that we won't see “peasants with pitchforks storm the castle” there always is the potential for revolution to occur with much more modern military equipment anywhere, oftentimes in the places we least expect it.
You go on to say “the people at the University of Arizona and the city of Tucson are committing treason”. Are you aware of the fact that treason is a charge that has brought against less than thirty people in the US: eight were convicted. the United States Code §2381 states "whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States." That is one of the recurring problems i have noticed here is people talk of treason and traitors without actually knowing the legal definition.
Then you say, “You can implement communism with any group of people and if the group is less than 100 - it probably will be successful (Kibbutz probably spelled incorrectly). Over 100 people and you have to use force (police state).” There are communes, they function in a communalist manner which is defined by the Random House Unabridged Dictionary as – a theory or system of government according to which each commune is virtually an independent state and the nation is merely a federation of such states. That is not communism however. In fact just to throw a monkeywrench at you, after the revolution Fredrick Engels wrote, “The first act by which the state really comes forward as the representative of the whole of society — the taking possession of the means of production in the name of society — is also its last independent act as a state. State interference in social relations becomes, in one domain after another, superfluous, and then dies down of itself. The government of persons is replaced by the administration of things, and by the conduct of processes of production. The state is not 'abolished'. It withers away. This gives the measure of the value of the phrase 'a free people's state'”...
And as for the WTO, the free trade agreements and what not, those are tools of imperialism allowing fewer, and fewer multinational corporations to expoit more and more people.
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#22 Sabotage, monkeywrench, and do everything else possible to destroy the New World Order.
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#29 “There is truth in the saying ... a camel is a horse designed by committee.” Tell that to someone in the Middle East or North Africa and they would laugh their head off. A horse is useless there, it would not survive in that climate.
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Log on to American Patrol and read second article from the bottom. LA is giving a good size chunk of money for the same cause.
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#33: Actually, the Arabian horse was perfected there (in the past) before Mercedes Benz came along, and instrumental in their military to quickly move around the dessert.
I'll bet if you ask any one there if they prefer to ride a horse or camel, the answer will be a horse.
Time to put these meandering off topic issues to bed and deal the agenda of cities and states partnering with foreign countries.
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#34 Jerry:
Could you provide a link to that article, it would be useful in my research. I did try to locate it on Glenn's site and failed to identify it. Thanks
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Gio,
The revolution began in the 1980's with Reagan's supply side economics. I don't think I was alone in thinking that the Reagan Revolution was mere political rhetoric. As it turns out - it wasn't. It was the beginning of a corporate led revolution leading to the fascist, out of control government we have now. Corporations use the weapons of money, media and paid puppets and useful idiots. They have the capacity to spawn an infinite number of "special interest" front groups pretending to serve public interest when what they really serve is a corporate interest. I stumbled across one story that was a real eye opener for me (no pun intended).
Hidden Rivers
http://www.channelingreality.com/News/hidden_rivers_Update.htm
The final coup d'grace on our government came on September 11. "Terrorism" is the golden goose for corporate interests that have taken over our government. A high technology police state is being implemented - not just in the U.S. but worldwide allegedly to "fight terrorism". But what it actually is - is an electronic prison for "workers" that will ensure their slave status throughout eternity.
You don't have to believe me on that. Listen carefully to these webcasts that were made at a forum sponsored by the Council on Competitiveness.
http://trade.gov/competitiveness/ACF/webcasts.asp
In particular, listen the one titled, "Supporting National and Regional Innovation for Economic Prosperity". And listen very closely to Jorge Gerdau. What you'll hear is that corporations won't be competing in the future. Rather it will be regions of people competing against other regions of people - gladiator workers - working for a bowl of gruel.
That's the future you are working for by aiding and abetting in the agenda to destroy U.S., Mexican and Canadian sovereignty - creating a continental pool of "workers".
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Laws, laws, we don't need no stinking laws! Since when does the federal government follow it's own laws, much less the constitution? They are bent, ignored, unenforced, underfunded, all sorts of ways to skirt the constitution. The feds are experts at it besides, they have all those activist judges to shop around for when they are challenged. So, put your precious constitution back into the Smithsonian where it belongs, we don't use nor need it anymore. We have the UN and the world court. We have our guns.
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Vicky:
I tried to download and listen to the link from:
Council of Competitiveness and obviously they have removed it from public view. That forum must have been full of disclosures for that organization to remove it from the public eye.
The study on Hidden Rivers appears to be interesting and I will go through it later today.
Thanks for the link.
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